Parts of Colorado are still drying out after floods hit the state last month. Eight people died, and damage from the worst flooding in decades is in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

Scientists are now venturing into the hardest-hit areas to do a sort of "flood forensics" to understand why the floods were so bad.

Geologist Jonathan Godt takes Peak Highway in northern Colorado up into the Rockies. The road there winds past ravines and streams where water is still rushing.

Front-end loaders are scooping up boulders that were tossed by the flooding stream onto the pavement, and workers with acetylene torches cut through guardrails that have been twisted like pretzels.

Godt pulls his SUV to a stop. A huge tongue of muddy debris has cut a new path through the trees on the slope and down the mountainside. It looks like a ski run, except it's mud.

"This is sort of on the scale you'd expect [from] one of the volcanoes in the Pacific Northwest," he says.

Godt, who studies landslides for the U.S. Geological Survey, says water keeps the soil and rock stable on these steep slopes — up to a certain point. It's like adding water to a sandcastle, he says. "There's this sweet spot — if it's too wet, it's like a slurry. It's unstable."

If the soil becomes too wet, mountainsides collapse — and flow downhill. That's what happened across Colorado's northern Rockies. The floods started with a wall of moist air from the Gulf of Mexico that got trapped up against the mountains, dumping almost a year's worth of rain in four days. As the overflow coursed through mountain ravines and canyons, it was like running a fire hydrant through a garden hose.

But it wasn't just water. Streams became rivers of trees, boulders — and an avalanche of concrete. Farther along the highway, we find thousands of uprooted trees, dumped in a jumble by a flooded stream. Above the jumble, the stream bed has been scoured out.

"Right now, the stream channel looks like it's been eroded down to the bedrock in places," Godt says. It may take years for streams like this one to support fish again.

The mountain village of Jamestown is still digging out from under tons of rock and mud. A man died here in a mudslide. We stop beside James Creek, which runs through town, and scramble down the stream bank.

Godt looks around and reconstructs what happened. A flow of debris raced down this stream, he says. "A debris flow has a coarse, bouldery front at the snout of it. And behind that is going to be a fluidized mixture of material, sand and stuff behind that, with a watery tail behind that."

Still more streams of debris descended from the surrounding hillsides. The town was hit from all sides.

"It's not like a water flood," Godt explains. "It carries a lot more momentum; it can do a lot more destruction." In this case, the flood of liquid and debris plummeted down the mountain, then shot across the road, across the stream, and rushed up the slope on the other side.

"You can see that mud plaster, which is indicative of a debris flow passage — it's up 15 feet in those trees," Godt says.

For more than four days, water and mud and rock plunged 2,000 feet from the peaks into foothill towns like Boulder and Longmont. In fact, the pulse of floodwater traveled 400 miles along rivers, all the way to Nebraska.

Everywhere it went, the flow left a muddy trail that worries scientists.

"There were bridges that were completely overtopped and left with mud," says Geoff Plumlee, a geologist at the U.S. Geological Survey and a dust expert. "Now trucks are driving over it, creating these massive dust clouds."

Plumlee worries the dust clouds could be toxic. He helped identify toxic materials in the debris from the fallen World Trade Center towers in New York City. In Colorado, he says, the floodwaters swept through mountain mining operations and picked up a lot of junk.

"Lead and uranium are probably the two elements that might be of potential concern," he says.

The floods have had environmental effects, but one recent change in the environment here may also have made the flooding worse — huge wildfires.

Wildfires burn away vegetation that holds soil together; when it rains hard after that, you get big, fast mudflows. Ten years ago, the hills above Jamestown burned. Klaus Wolter, a climate scientist at the University of Colorado who lives five miles away, saw it happen.

"So this is kind of scary to contemplate, that 10 years after a fire, you can still have these effects," Wolter says. Scientists are now looking to see if there's a link between Colorado's recent wildfires and the heaviest flooding.

Wolter says he and other Coloradans need to acknowledge this fire/flood dynamic.

"We've had an increase in the number of people that live somewhere in this burn zone," he says. And that exposes them not just to fire, but to the floods that follow as well.

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Parts of Colorado were finally drying out after heavy flooding last month, the worst the state has seen in decades. Eight people died and damage is in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Now, scientists are venturing into the hardest-hit areas to do a sort of flood forensics, trying to understand why the flooding was so bad.

NPR's Christopher Joyce went with them. He has this story.

CHRISTOPHER JOYCE, BYLINE: Geologist Jonathan Godt drives the Peak to Peak Highway in northern Colorado, up into the Rockies. The road winds past ravines where water still rushes down a stream. Front-end loaders are scooping up boulders that were tossed onto the road by that stream. Workers with acetylene torches are cutting up metal guardrails that have been twisted like pretzels.

Godt pulls his SUV to a stop. Up above, a huge tongue of muddy debris has cut a new path through the trees and down the mountainside. It looks like a ski run, except it's mud.

JONATHAN GODT: This is sort of on the scale like you'd expect off of one of the volcanoes in the Pacific Northwest.

JOYCE: Godt studies landslides at the U.S. Geological Survey. He says on these steep slopes, water keeps the soil and rock stable up to a certain tipping point.

GODT: Kind of like a little sand castle. You know, there's this sweet spot. If it's too wet, it's like a slurry, it's unstable.

JOYCE: Too wet and mountainsides collapse and flow downhill. That's what happened across Colorado's northern Rockies. The flood started with a wall of moist air from the Gulf of Mexico. It got trapped up against the mountains, and almost a year's worth of rain fell in four days. It fell into mountain ravines and canyons. It was like running a fire hydrant through a garden hose.

It wasn't just water. Streams became rivers of trees, boulders, an avalanche of concrete. Farther along the highway, we find thousands of uprooted trees, dumped in a jumble by a flooded stream. Above the jumble, the stream bed has been scoured out.

GODT: Right now, the stream channel looks like it's been eroded down to bedrock in places.

JOYCE: It may take years for streams like this one to support fish again. We get to Jamestown, a mountain village that's still digging out from under tons of rock and mud. A man died here in a mudslide. We stop beside James Creek, which runs through town, and scramble down a stream bank. Godt reconstructs what happened from what he sees. A debris-flow came racing down the stream.

GODT: A debris flow has a coarse, bouldery front at the snout of it. And then behind that is going to be a fluidized mixture of material, sand and stuff behind that, with a watery tail behind that.

JOYCE: And more flows came down from the hillsides as well. The town was hit from all sides.

GODT: It's not like a water flood. It carries a lot more momentum, it can do a lot more destruction.

JOYCE: And in this case, it came down this ravine, across the road, shot across the stream, and up the slope on the other side.

GODT: Up the slope on the other side, you can see that mud plaster which is indicative of debris flow passage. It's up 15 feet in those trees.

JOYCE: Over four days, water and mud and rock plunged 2,000 feet down out of the mountains and into towns like Boulder and Longmont. In fact, the pulse of floodwater traveled 400 miles along rivers, all the way to Nebraska. Everywhere it went, it left a muddy trail - one that scientists are now worried about.

GEOFF PLUMLEE: There were bridges that were completely overtopped and left with mud, and so now trucks are driving over it creating these massive dust clouds.

JOYCE: Dust clouds that could be toxic. Geoff Plumlee is a geologist at the U.S. Geological Survey and a dust expert. He helped identify toxic materials in the debris from the fallen Trade Center towers in New York City. Plumlee says floodwaters picked up a lot of junk on their downhill journey. In the mountains, it swept through mining operations.

PLUMLEE: Lead and uranium are probably the two elements that might be of potential concern.

JOYCE: Then farther down slope...

PLUMLEE: Oil tanks, animal feeding operations, human sewage.

JOYCE: Plumlee takes me along on a mud survey. We stop at Left Hand Creek, where it runs under a highway west of Denver. Mud along the stream bank sparkles with bits of mica from the mountains.

PLUMLEE: Left Hand Canyon is a canyon probably 20 miles upstream that has quite a bit of mining activity, so we'll see if we see elevated levels of things like lead and zinc and copper.

JOYCE: With a plastic scoop, Plumlee digs three inches into the goop.

PLUMLEE: That's what will most readily turn into dust and people can be exposed to.

JOYCE: The mud will go back to the Survey's labs for analysis. The floods have had environmental effects but a change in the environment here may have made the flooding worse. Wildfires. Wildfires burn away vegetation that holds soil together. Then when it rains hard, you get big, fast mudflows. Ten years ago, the hills above Jamestown burned. Klaus Wolter saw it happen. He lives five miles away.

KLAUS WOLTER: So this is kind of scary to contemplate that 10 years after a fire, you can still have these effects.

JOYCE: Scientists are now looking to see if there's a link between Colorado's recent wildfires and the heaviest flooding. Wolter, who's a climate scientist at the University of Colorado, says Coloradans, including himself, need to acknowledge this fire-flood dynamic.

WOLTER: Part of the equation is that the exposure to risk. We have had this increase in the number of people that live somewhere in this burn zone.

JOYCE: And that exposes them not just to fire but to the floods that follow as well. Christopher Joyce, NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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