On Broadway, Old Shows And New Tricks
When I was a teenager falling in love with the theater, I picked up a book called Broadway's Greatest Musicals. The sole criterion for inclusion was that a show run for at least 500 performances, which translates to about a year and a quarter.
How quaint.
I was thinking about that when I attended the 25th-anniversary performance of The Phantom of the Opera, now ranked as Broadway's longest-running musical ever. The show was in great shape — in some respects maybe better than when it opened — and I asked the Phantom's legendary director, Hal Prince, how often he came to see it in a year, expecting him to say once or twice. His answer surprised me.
"I see the show probably at least a dozen times a year, but I rehearse them four times a year," Prince says. "And it's a hell of a happy responsibility, you know what I mean? I'm very grateful for it."
Hugh Panaro, who plays the Phantom, has a unique perspective. His first stint with the show was 22 years ago, when he played the young lover Raoul. Over the years, Panaro has left the show to do other roles, but he's returned several times. All told, he's played the Phantom for over 1,700 performances.
While he says those rehearsals with Prince are crucial, part of what keeps things fresh for him is that he has played opposite so many actresses in the lead role of Christine. He doesn't have an exact count, but he can wager a guess.
"Fifteen, easily!" Panaro says. "And that's not counting understudies; that's counting girls that have held this contract, from the time I was Raoul 'til now. I get two Christines a week" — the part is daunting enough that a different actress performs at matinees — "and no two Christines are alike, which is the beauty of it. So I get a fresh pair of eyes every night, pretty much."
Getting It Right, Eight Times A Week
Up on West 51st Street at the Gershwin Theatre, production stage manager Marybeth Abel is putting a new actor into the role of the munchkin Boq in Wicked, the prequel to The Wizard of Oz, which will be celebrating its 10th anniversary this October. In her office backstage, she explains what she does.
"I always say my primary job is to make sure the show goes on every night as scheduled, and that we do it successfully and we get a standing ovation at the end of the night," Abel says, laughing.
So she works with the actors and the backstage crew — there are about 120 people on Wicked — to make sure the show runs smoothly eight times a week.
But she also takes charge of afternoon and evening rehearsals, teaching understudies and new performers their blocking — where to move onstage and when.
"Hands down, when you're in a long-run show, the best thing that happens is there's turnover in cast," Abel says. "That's the best thing that happens, because all those influxes of difference make everybody, like, step up!"
One of the new actors Abel has put in the show is Willemjin Verkaik, in the role of Elphaba — the green girl who becomes the Wicked Witch of the West. Verkaik is from the Netherlands and has played Elphaba in Europe in both Dutch and German. Now she's hit a trifecta, doing it on Broadway in English.
Even if she's following in the footsteps — literally — of Tony Award winner Idina Menzel, who created the role, she says she's found ways to make the part her own.
"You are an actor, so you have to play it yourself, and you have to make it believable; you have to believe it yourself, so you have to go on that journey yourself," Verkaik says. "And that is what the director helps you to do."
'It's Not A Factory Job'
Every show has a resident director, who acts as a liaison between the original creators and the cast. That's John Stefaniuk's job at The Lion King, which recently celebrated its 15th anniversary. He travels the globe overseeing as many as eight productions of the show, working closely with all the actors.
"It's not a factory job," Stefaniuk says. "You want to allow these actors to feel like actors and treat them as such; not feel like replicas of somebody else's show. It's being told by that person firsthand, rather than fifth-, sixth-, seventh-hand, because if you take a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, soon it starts to lose its integrity. And I really think that's the core ... to really keep the integrity of what that audience had on the first night."
Ron Kunene has been with The Lion King for all 15 years, as a bass in the chorus. Born in South Africa, he has a second job on the show — helping actors in New York and in other companies with some of the African dialects, like the language the baboon Rafiki speaks.
"And it's based on clicks," Kuene says, demonstrating. "So, it's my duty to also teach."
But Kunene says what really keeps the show fresh for him is seeing the expressions on the faces of audience members. Panaro, over at The Phantom of the Opera, agrees.
"Every performance, there's a new audience out there," Panaro says. "And there may be a 12-year-old or a 13-year-old kid out there that wants to maybe do this for a living. And that's my story. You know, my parents brought me to see my first Broadway show when I was 12 years old."
And even though he's seen The Lion King hundreds of times, resident director Stefaniuk says it's never boring.
"I think after all these years, if it doesn't still send a shiver up my back, then I'm not doing my job," Stefaniuk says.
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Transcript
SCOTT SIMON, HOST:
On Broadway, a hit show can run not just for years, but decades. So how do you keep long-running shows fresh for new audiences? Jeff Lunden talked to people who work on three of Broadway's biggest hits, to find out how they do it.
JEFF LUNDEN, BYLINE: When I was a teenager falling in love with the theater, I picked up a book called "Broadway's Greatest Musicals." The sole criterion for inclusion was that a show run for at least 500 performances, which translates to about a year and a quarter. How quaint.
(SOUNDBITE OF BROADWAY SHOW MUSIC)
LUNDEN: I was thinking about that when I attended the 25th anniversary performance of "The Phantom of the Opera," Broadway's longest running musical ever. The show was in great shape - in some respects, maybe even better than when it opened - and I asked "Phantom's" legendary director, Hal Prince, how often he came to see it in a year, expecting him to say maybe once or twice. His answer surprised me.
HAL PRINCE: I see the show probably at least a dozen times a year, but I rehearse them four times a year. And it's a hell of a happy responsibility, you know what I mean? I'm very grateful for it.
LUNDEN: Hugh Panaro, who plays the Phantom, has a unique perspective. His first stint with the show was 22 years ago, when he played the young lover Raoul. Over the years, Panaro's left the show to do other roles. But he's returned several times, and has played the Phantom for over 1,700 performances. While he says those rehearsals with Hal Prince are crucial, part of what keeps things fresh for him is he's played opposite so many actresses in the lead role of Christine. Although he doesn't have an exact count, he figures it's...
HUGH PANARO: You know - 15, easily. And that's not counting understudies. That's counting girls that have held this contract from the time I was Raoul, till now. I get two Christines a week. And no two Christines are alike, which is the beauty of it. So I get a fresh pair of eyes every night, pretty much.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "MUSIC OF THE NIGHT")
PANARO: (Singing) Let your mind start a journey to a strange, new world. Leave all thoughts of the world you knew before...
LUNDEN: Up at the Gershwin Theatre, production stage manager Marybeth Abel is putting a new actor into the role of Boq at "Wicked," the prequel to "The Wizard of Oz," which will be celebrating its 10th anniversary this October.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG REHEARSAL)
MARYBETH ABEL: OK, let's just stop one sec. Hey, could you bring those glasses back, Greg?
LUNDEN: In her office backstage, she explains what she does.
ABEL: I always say my primary job is to make sure that the show goes on every night as scheduled, and that we do it successfully; and we get a standing ovation at the end of the night. (LAUGHTER)
LUNDEN: So she works with the actors and the backstage crew - there are about 120 people who work on "Wicked" - to make sure the show runs smoothly eight times a week. But she also runs afternoon and evening rehearsals, teaching understudies and new performers their blocking - where to move onstage and when.
ABEL: Hands down, when you're in a long-run show, the best thing that happens is that there's turnover in cast. That's the best thing that happens because all those influxes of difference make everybody like, step up.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "DEFYING GRAVITY")
WILLEMIJN VERKAIK: (as Elphaba) (Singing in foreign language)
LUNDEN: One of the actors Abel has put in the show is Willemijn Verkaik, in the role of Elphaba, the green girl who becomes the Wicked Witch of the West. Verkaik is from the Netherlands and has played Elphaba in Europe, in both Dutch and German. Now, she's hit the trifecta, doing it on Broadway in English.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "DEFYING GRAVITY")
VERKAIK: (as Elphaba) (singing) I'm flying high, defying gravity...
LUNDEN: Even if she's following in the footsteps - literally - of Tony Award winner Idina Menzel, who created the role, she says she's found ways to make the part her own.
VERKAIK: You are an actor, so you have to play it yourself. And you have to make it believable; you have to believe it yourself. So you have to go on that journey yourself, and that is what the director helps you to do.
LUNDEN: Every show has a resident director who acts as a liaison between the original creators and the cast. That's John Stefaniuk's job at "The Lion King," which recently celebrated its 15th anniversary. He travels the globe, overseeing as many as eight productions of the show, working closely with all the actors.
JOHN STEFANIUK: It's not a factory job. You want to allow these actors to feel like actors and treat them as such; not feel like replicas of somebody else's show. It's being told by that person firsthand, rather than fifth-, sixth-, seventh-hand because if you take a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, soon it starts to lose its integrity. And I really think that's what the core - key is to it; is to really keep the integrity of what that audience had on the first night.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "CIRCLE OF LIFE")
UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: (As Rafiki) (Singing) It's the circle of life, and it moves us all...
LUNDEN: Ron Kunene has been with "The Lion King" for all 15 years, as a bass in the chorus. Born in South Africa, he has a second job on the show - helping actors in New York and in other companies with some of the African dialect, like the language the baboon Rafiki speaks.
RON KUNENE: And it's based on clicks. (Speaking foreign language) So it's my duty to also teach.
LUNDEN: But Kunene says what really keeps the show fresh, for him, is seeing the expressions on the face of audience members. Hugh Panaro, over at "The Phantom of the Opera," agrees.
PANARO: Every performance, there's a new audience out there. And there may be a 12-year-old or a 13-year-old kid out there that wants to maybe do this for a living. And that's my story. You know, my parents brought me to see my first Broadway show when I was 12 years old.
LUNDEN: And even though he's seen "The Lion King" hundreds of times, resident director John Stefaniuk says it's never boring.
STEFANIUK: I think after all these years, if it doesn't still send a shiver up my back, then I'm not doing my job.
LUNDEN: For NPR News, I'm Jeff Lunden in New York.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "CIRCLE OF LIFE")
"LION KING" CAST: (Singing) In the circle, the circle of life...
SIMON: And from the Dan Schorr Studios, this is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. Thanks, 2-A. I'm Scott Simon. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.
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