A family of 10 American citizens who were held for years in a Syrian refugee camp and detention center for relatives of Islamic State militants are now back in the United States, the result of complex negotiations that also returned two young sons of a Minnesota man who pleaded guilty to supporting the ISIS terrorist group.
As an additional part of that coordinated international effort, Canada and two European countries — Finland and the Netherlands — this week brought home 11 of their citizens held in those camps, the majority of them children.
In total, 23 people, including 14 minors, were repatriated to their home countries or resettled in other countries, according to the U.S. State Department, which led the operation. It concluded early Tuesday morning, when a U.S. military aircraft landed at John F. Kennedy International Airport carrying 50-year-old Brandy J. Salman and her nine children, as well as the 7- and 9-year-old sons of a 27-year-old man who grew up in a Minneapolis suburb. That man, Abelhamid Al-Madioum, faces prison time for having fought for ISIS in Syria when he was a teenager. One of Salman's adult daughters — Halima Salman, 24 — was arrested this morning for allegedly getting ISIS military training in Syria, possibly to join a battalion of female fighters.
Their complicated homecomings make a tiny dent in a massive and pressing global problem: What to do with the roughly 45,000 people from more than 70 countries being held in huge, primitive desert camps in northeast Syria near the Iraq border. More than ninety percent are women and children, two-thirds are under age 18, and about half are under age 12, according to officials. Yet the camps, which include orphans, have limited health care and schooling and are sometimes violent.
Beyond being a humanitarian crisis, the presence of so many minors living among current and former ISIS members poses a global security threat. The camps, where children continue to be born, have been called terrorist breeding grounds, so the U.S. is pushing other countries to help shrink the camps' numbers by bringing their citizens home.
"The longer we leave them there, the more vulnerable they are to radicalization and to exploitation by extremists," said Ian Moss, the State Department's deputy coordinator for counterterrorism. "And they're vulnerable. I mean, certainly these kids are vulnerable."
But repatriation and resettlement can be a hard sell. Many countries are reluctant or unwilling to allow people who have been in the camps to return, out of fear that they would be importing jihadists.
Still, said Moss, "we really have an obligation to reduce the population and give these folks a shot at a life where they are not susceptible to extremist forces to the extent that they might be if they remain there."
To help them reintegrate into society, he added, government officials provide a wide range of support, including "psychosocial professionals and social workers," as well as trauma counseling and connections to family members.
Some returnees could face prosecution and imprisonment. In fact, of the 40 other Americans returned from Syrian camps in recent years, at least 14 have been prosecuted due to their involvement with ISIS.
Moss said bringing camp residents home could prevent future terrorist attacks, and the U.S. hopes that repatriating nearly a dozen of its own citizens this week — the largest number returned from northeast Syria in one fell swoop — will set an example for the rest of the world.
In a statement, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said: "The only durable solution to the humanitarian and security crisis in the displaced persons camps and detention facilities in northeast Syria is for countries to repatriate, rehabilitate, reintegrate, and where appropriate, ensure accountability for wrongdoing."
It is unclear whether Salman, whose nine children were born in the U.S. and range in age from about 7 to 26, will face criminal charges. Initially, at least, she will live with her mother in New Hampshire, officials say. Salman was born in the United States and married a Turkish-American man, who took her and their children into Islamic State territory around 2016 and was later killed. According to an account of one of the children, the father may have tricked his family into entering Syria by claiming that they were going on a camping trip to Turkey. But the allegations against Halima Salman, the daughter who was arrested, suggest she went to Syria willingly. It's unclear whether additional Salman family members could also face charges.
Eventually, Salman and her children were taken into custody and sent to a Syrian camp. Some of them were housed together there and others were sent to separate facilities for adolescent boys and men.
Salman was born in western Massachusetts and public records show that she has also lived in Michigan, New Hampshire and New York City. Her father, Stephen R. Caravalho, lives in Hot Springs, Ark., and her sister, Rebecca Jean Harris, lives in Murfreesboro, Tenn.
The 7-year-old and 9-year-old sons of Al-Madioum, who is awaiting a sentencing hearing to learn how much prison time he will serve, will live with their grandparents in Minnesota, according to court records.
Those records say that Al-Madioum, who grew up in St. Louis Park, Minn., snuck off to Syria via Turkey during a family trip to their native Morocco in 2015. He was 18 at the time and had become "convinced by an expert ISIS recruiter" on social media to "test his faith and to become a real Muslim" by joining ISIS and to ask himself, "How can you in the West sit in your bedrooms knowing that Muslims are suffering overseas?"
He became an ISIS soldier but was injured in an explosion, breaking both legs and losing part of an arm. He surrendered with his sons in 2019, was sent to a Syrian prison camp, returned to the U.S. in 2020, and pleaded guilty in 2021 to providing material support to a designated terrorist organization.
The 7-year-old is Al-Madioum's biological son by an ISIS widow he married, making the child a U.S. citizen. The 9-year-old is the woman's son by a previous relationship, Al-Madioum's stepson. The woman later died.
After Al-Madioum was imprisoned, the boys landed in an orphanage in Syria, and after being discovered there they were able to have weekly video visits with Al-Madioum's parents in Minnesota, who will be their foster parents while Al-Madioum is in prison. Once he is released, he will live with his parents and children, according to court records.
The 9-year-old stepson is not a U.S. citizen but is being resettled in the U.S. through "significant public benefit parole," which admits people into the country for "urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit."
Because many children in the Syrian camps have mixed nationalities, "we have to think creatively and be flexible in order to preserve family units in instances like that," Moss said.
U.S. officials estimate that approximately two dozen additional Americans are being held in Syrian displacement and detention camps, but finding and identifying them is an ongoing challenge. Even if located, not all Americans might want to return.
"Folks may not want to come back because they might be concerned about what form of accountability may await them. They may have been gone for such a length of time that they've lost touch with their families. It may simply just be fear of the unknown," Moss said. "Some of these individuals have been in these camps for four or five years and that has become their day-to-day reality."
As for how they wound up in the camps, "perhaps there was an affinity for the ideology. Bad decisions. There's certainly no shortage of individuals who may have been deceived and ultimately ended up there," he added.
Of the 11 Canadian and European citizens who were repatriated this week, six minors went to Canada, one adult in his 20s went to Finland, and two women and two minors went to The Netherlands.
In addition to the women and children in Syrian camps, roughly 8,800 former ISIS militants are confined in prisons in northeast Syria that hold the largest concentration of detained terrorists in the world. Additional displaced men are held in Syrian refugee camps, the largest of which are called al-Hol and Roj. What to do with those men remains an even more difficult problem .
However, said Moss, "the alternative to repatriation is a possible resurgence of ISIS."
Transcript
MICHEL MARTIN, HOST:
Early this morning, a small group of people, half of them children, quietly arrived in the United States from Syria. They had been held there for years in huge desert camps for refugees and relatives of ISIS militants. It took complex negotiations to get them here to restart their lives in the U.S. Sacha Pfeiffer of our investigations team is here with the details. Good morning, Sasha.
SACHA PFEIFFER, BYLINE: Good morning, Michel.
MARTIN: Tell us about this group.
PFEIFFER: So there are 12 people total, half of them are kids. They're from two separate families. One is a single family of 10 people that had been held in these camps for years. It's a 50-year-old mother and her nine children, ages of 7 to 26. The mother, named Brandy Salman, had lived in the U.S. She married a Turkish American man. According to one of the kids, the father said he was taking the family to Turkey at a camping trip - this was 2016. Instead, they ended up in Islamic state territory in Syria. The father gets killed. The wife and kids end up in one of the camps, as we said, for years. Michel, it's unclear what the family's relationship with ISIS was, if any, but a U.S. official says that one of the adult daughters was arrested this morning. So that's a developing story.
MARTIN: OK. So that's family number one.
PFEIFFER: Yes. There are also two boys, ages 7 to 9, from a separate family. They're the sons of a Minnesota man who fought for ISIS, is now back in the U.S. being prosecuted and will soon go to prison. He was badly injured in Syria and later surrendered, and when he surrendered, he had these two boys with him. One is the biological son of his by an ISIS widow he married. The other is the son of that woman by a previous relationship she had - so his stepson. These kids ended up in an orphanage. They're now in the U.S., so all these 12 people are now back.
MARTIN: So you said - look, as you said, this is mostly kids. So why were these such complicated negotiations? What was the fear here? Tell us about that.
PFEIFFER: Yeah. So there is a fear. The fear is that these camps in Syria are a big problem. Forty-five thousand people are there from about 70 different countries. Babies continue to be born there. It's a terrible environment - little health care and schooling, they can be violent. The U.S. and other countries want to reduce the population of the camps by bringing people home. But that can be a tough sell because many countries are afraid by bringing them home, you'll be importing terrorists. The U.S. says these people can be reintegrated with the right support, and the U.S. says the greater risk is letting them stay there. They could be the next generation of ISIS fighters. Here's how the State Department's deputy coordinator for counterterrorism, Ian Moss, puts it.
IAN MOSS: The longer we leave them there, the more vulnerable they are to radicalization and to exploitation by extremists and folks that have an extremist agenda, and they're vulnerable. I mean, certainly, these kids are vulnerable.
MARTIN: So, Sacha, as you said, there are about 45,000 people in these camps. We're only talking about a dozen people coming home. How does this help?
PFEIFFER: Right. And I should note that as part of this operation, it was a global operation, another 11 people were returned to Canada and Finland and the Netherlands. Eight of those 11 people were children. So in total, 23 people get out from Canada, the U.S. and Europe. That is a tiny dent in a massive problem. But the U.S. and those other countries hope that by bringing all those people home, it will set an example for the rest of the world, and more countries will start to do the same and shrink the populations of those camps.
MARTIN: So we have about 25 seconds left. Do we know what the circumstances are that the family will be living in? They already have family in the United States...
PFEIFFER: Yes.
MARTIN: ...That they'll be living with?
PFEIFFER: Correct. Both of them - in the case of the Minnesota man, his grandkids - or his kids will be living with their grandparents until he gets out of prison. So his grandparents - or his parents are going to be foster parents to his children. In the case of Brandy Salman, she and her family will be living with her mother in New Hampshire is what we know so far according to a U.S. official.
MARTIN: That is NPR Sacha Pfeiffer. Sasha, thank you so much for this reporting.
PFEIFFER: You're welcome, Michel. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.
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