A political debate is breaking out at a farmers market in Henderson, Nev., about 10 miles southeast of the lights of the Las Vegas strip.

Orlando Nurillo, a 33-year-old bread stand vendor, says he’s done with President Biden, which draws other neighboring vendors over to join in — many agreeing.

“I will probably have to move out of the country. I would not want that guy running anything else,” Nurillo says.

Nurillo and the others disgusted by Biden are exactly the type of voters former President Donald Trump hopes to reach with his visit to a Las Vegas park on Sunday. The rally is part of a western swing that includes a Phoenix town hall and several fundraising stops. Las Vegas will mark Trump’s first rally since his historic felony conviction.

Biden won Nevada in 2020 in a nail-biter, and the state is expected to once again be a critical battleground in this year’s election. Republicans see plenty of opportunities among different groups here.

Voters — both Democrats and Republicans — are digging in, and anger is palpable. Both sides are angry about housing, the economy and immigration. But they have very different ideas about who is to blame.

For Trump supporters like Shiani Santana, it’s entirely Biden’s fault.

“I'm 23 years old, and I don't think I could afford to move out on my own anytime soon into my own apartment, let alone my own house,” she told NPR.

Santana launched a skincare business just before the pandemic. However, she didn’t qualify for a business relief loan and says like many in her generation, homeownership is a pipe dream.

She’s also frustrated that her family’s community in her home state of Hawaii has not seen more federal assistance after devastating fires in Maui last year. She says she compares that to foreign countries like Israel that have seen billions of dollars in U.S. aid.

“A lot of our family members lost their homes and were never let back in, and a lot of family members were displaced,” she said.

So, even if she may not love everything about Trump, she says she thinks she’ll vote for him again.

“Just because our economy and the future of our economy, not because of what he says or the things he says,” she said.

Among the produce and homemade goods, conspiracy theories were also on the table from many voters, including Santana. It’s fueled by their anger and confusion about decisions made by the country’s leaders.

“I feel like COVID was a coverup for all of that, they were like, ‘Oh what can we do to manipulate the people and to bring change upon them, oh make them all stay at home,’” she said.

A few feet away, customer Shack Kaspershackelford was puzzled by Trump voters. She says she’d never vote for him.

“No, no, absolutely not. Zero out of 10,” she said.

Kaspershackelford, a technician at Allegiant Stadium, is also 23 years old and shares Santana’s housing frustration. She is also living with her parents.

But she says she’s still leaning toward Biden even as many of her relatives back Trump.

“I have a lot of family members who do like him,” she said.

Kaspershackelford said she voted for Biden in the last election and generally wants more left-leaning candidates. She says she’s most concerned about the U.S. getting pulled into a new, international war.

She’s also worried about the economy, social issues and immigration.

She admits she’s not thrilled about Biden and wants to see more from him.

“I think he's definitely done some decent work over the last four years,” she said. “I just feel like it's maybe not enough. I haven't heard too much about stuff he's really gotten done or his policies, and I would prefer somebody a bit more left, but also, like, if that's what we've got, that's what we have, you know?”

Housing concerns driving anger

About 30 miles away at an early voting site in northwest Las Vegas, Keri Cervantez was trying to get the word out on her favorite local candidates.

Cervantez is a fifth-generation Las Vegas native who says three of her four adult sons have moved back into her home because they couldn’t find anything affordable. The retiree says it’s the sign of a weak economy — and blames Biden.

“I mean, I see more and more my neighbors have their kids living with them,” Cervantez said from the Thunderbird Family Sports Complex. “And because they can't afford it, you know, they'll never be able, at this rate, afford a home.”

Her son Sean, who has worked as a physical therapist, agrees.

“That's what keeps me up at night is not being able to to know that I don't have a way to protect my family, how to take care of my family. And it's rough, you know, and I think that's one of the biggest things that my generation is looking at.”

Sean Cervantez and his mom both voted for Trump in the last election.

Conspiracy theories resurface when he begins talking about the voting machines in 2020 and how the technology can’t be trusted.

Sean says he’s so disenchanted with the whole process, he may not vote at all this year.

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Former President Trump heads to Las Vegas Sunday to hold one of his first rallies since his historic conviction. President Biden won Nevada in 2020 in a nail-biter, and polls predict an even tighter race this year. NPR congressional correspondent Claudia Grisales has more from Las Vegas.

CLAUDIA GRISALES, BYLINE: A political debate is breaking out at a farmers market in Henderson, Nev., about 10 miles southeast from the lights of the Las Vegas Strip.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: I will probably have to move out of this country. I would not want that guy running...

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: Same.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: ...Anything else. Yeah. Like, that guy...

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: He brought us from weird to...

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: Yeah.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: ...The bottom of the ocean.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: Yeah. I can't imagine, like...

GRISALES: Voters, both Democrats and Republicans, are digging in, and anger is palpable on both sides. They're angry about housing, the economy and immigration, but they have very different ideas of who is to blame. For supporters of former President Donald Trump, like Shiani Santana, it's entirely President Biden's fault.

SHIANI SANTANA: I'm 23 years old, and I don't think I could buy - afford to move out on my own anytime soon into my own apartment, let alone my own house.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #3: Yeah.

GRISALES: She launched her skincare business just before the pandemic, but she did not qualify for a business relief loan. And just like many in her generation, home ownership is a pipe dream. She may not love everything about Trump, but she says she'll vote for him again.

SANTANA: 'Cause our economy and the future of our economy, not because what he says.

GRISALES: Among the produce in homemade goods, conspiracy theories are also on the table from many voters. It's fueled by their anger and confusion about decisions made by the country's leaders.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #4: I feel like COVID was a cover-up for all of that. They're like, oh, what can we do to manipulate the people and to bring change upon them? Oh, make them all stay home. We'll figure out these changes and then implement them on...

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #5: We have carrot cake, pumpkin bread, and then we have banana nut in...

GRISALES: A few feet away, customer Shack Kaspershackelford is puzzled by Trump voters. She says she'd never vote for him.

SHACK KASPERSHACKELFORD: Nope.

GRISALES: So you're saying you're...

KASPERSHACKELFORD: Nope. Absolutely not. Zero out of ten.

GRISALES: Kaspershackelford, who works at Allegiant Stadium, is also 23 years old and shares Santana's housing frustrations. She's living with her parents, too. But she's still leaning towards Biden while many of her relatives are sticking with Trump.

KASPERSHACKELFORD: I have a lot of family members who do like him.

GRISALES: She voted for Biden in the last election and wants more left-leaning candidates. She says she's most concerned about the U.S. getting pulled into a new international war. She's also worried about the economy, access to housing and immigration, and she wants to see more from Biden.

KASPERSHACKELFORD: I just feel like it's maybe not enough. I haven't heard too much about stuff he's really gotten done or his policies. And I would prefer somebody a bit more left, but also, like, if that's what we've got, that's what we have, you know?

GRISALES: Yes.

Later that day, 30 miles away in northwest Las Vegas, Keri Cervantez and her son are trying to get the word out on their favorite local candidates at an early voting site.

KERI CERVANTEZ: Hi.

GRISALES: Cervantez is a fifth-generation Vegas native, and she says 3 of her 4 adult sons have moved back into her home because they could not find anything affordable. The retiree says it's a sign of a weak economy and blames Biden.

K CERVANTEZ: I see more and more my neighbors have their kids living with them and - 'cause they can't afford it. You know, they'll never be able, at this rate, afford a home (ph).

GRISALES: Her son, Sean Cervantez, who has worked as a physical therapist, agrees.

SEAN CERVANTEZ: That's what keeps me up at night, is not being able to know that I don't have a way to, you know, protect my family, you know, to take care of my family. And it's rough, you know? And I think that's one of the biggest things that my generation is looking at.

GRISALES: Sean Cervantez and his mom both voted for Trump in the last election. Sean says he's so disenchanted with the whole process, he may not vote at all this year.

Claudia Grisales, NPR News, Las Vegas. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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