The 2024 presidential campaign has hit a reset with more voters moving into the undecided camp now that Kamala Harris is potentially the Democratic nominee, a new NPR/PBS News/Marist poll finds.

Harris and former President Donald Trump are statistically tied, but 1 in 5 independents, including almost 3 in 10 independent women, now say they are undecided. So these next few weeks will be vital for Harris to reintroduce herself before views solidify.

The survey also found that Democrats are feeling better about their chances now, and Black voters, in particular, say they are more fired up to vote.

But both Harris and Trump have work to do with key voting groups, from younger and nonwhite voters for Trump; and independents, suburban and white voters overall for Harris.

As for Biden’s decision to step aside in the presidential race, Americans overwhelmingly agree with his choice, and two-thirds think he should serve out his term in office and not resign.

Harris and Trump are statistically tied

  • In a head-to-head matchup, Trump gets 46%, while Harris is at 45%, with 9% undecided. In Marist’s survey earlier this month, just 2% were undecided between Trump and Biden. The poll of 1,309 adults was conducted Monday via online research panels. It has a +/- 3.2 percentage point margin of error, meaning results could be roughly 3 points higher or lower. 

  • In a five-way contest, Trump and Harris each get 42%, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. pulls in 7%, the lowest since Marist has been testing him since April, and independent Cornel West and the Green Party’s Jill Stein get just 1%.

  • Notably, Harris holds onto Gen Z/Millennial voters and nonwhite voters more so than Biden was able to when the contest moves from a head-to-head with Trump to one with third-party choices. Earlier this month, Biden declined 13 points with those younger voters and 10 points with nonwhite voters. Harris, on the other hand, largely retains her support with those groups.

Significant numbers of various groups have now moved into the undecided category

With more folks undecided, there's an opportunity for Harris that Biden did not seem to have. It's another key indication of just how much of a restart this move is for the campaign.

Democrats overwhelmingly want Harris to be the nominee

  • By a 77%-22% margin, Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say they want her to be the nominee.

  • Black voters were the most likely of any subgroup to say they were more likely to vote now that Biden has stepped aside – 50% said so. Latinos (46%) and voters aged 18-29 (43%) were also among the most likely to say they are more likely to vote now.

Americans agree Biden made the right choice in not running for reelection, but most think he should finish out his presidency

  • 87% said stepping aside was the right thing to do, including 87% of Democrats and Republicans, as well as 90% of independents.

  • Two-thirds (68%) think Biden should finish out his term. Republicans are largely split, with 53% saying he should resign and 47% saying he should serve out his term.

A plurality said the decision puts Democrats in a better position to win

  • By a 41%-24% margin, Americans said Biden’s decision increases Democrats’ chances this fall. A third said it makes no difference.

  • Two-thirds of Democrats (65%) said it increases their chances. More independents also think so, 38%, vs. 21% who think it doesn’t. A plurality of Republicans (42%) think it won’t make a difference, and more of them believe it will hurt rather than help (36%-21%).

Harris starts with a net-negative favorability rating, but slightly better than Trump

Harris gets a 40%-44% positive-to-negative rating, while 15% either haven’t heard of her or were unsure. Trump gets a 43%-49% rating with 8% unsure.

  • In the last Marist survey, Biden’s unfavorable rating was 7 points worse than Harris.

  • Trump may be seeing a marginal convention bounce, as his unfavorability rating is 4 points lower than Marist’s survey taken before the convention. 

  • Black voters have among the highest favorability ratings of Harris of any group – 61%. White evangelical Christians (73%) and men without college degrees (62%) give Trump among his highest ratings. Those numbers show which voters likely make up the strongest portions of each candidate’s base of support.

This is a critical period for Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, Trump’s VP pick, because lots of people haven’t formed an opinion of him yet

  • Forty-one percent have either never heard of him or are unsure. Just 28% have a favorable opinion, while 31% have a negative one.

There’s no consensus about a vice-presidential pick, because they are largely unknown

  • Twenty-one percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents would like to see Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and another 21% favor Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg as a VP pick. They’re followed by Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (17%), Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly (13%), North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (8%), Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (7%), Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear (6%) and Maryland Gov. Wes Moore (6%).

Colored by partisanship, Biden’s presidential legacy is not seen as a positive one

  • Half of those surveyed say Biden will be remembered as either below average or one of the worst presidents in history (31% said one of the worst, 19% said below average). A quarter said average, another quarter said above average or one of the best presidents.

  • There are very different views by party, though, with 85% of Republicans and 57% of independents saying Biden would be seen as below average or one of the worst, while 55% of Democrats saying above average or one of the best.

  • For context, when Trump left office, larger numbers – 60% – said he would go down as below average or one of the worst. In 2016, 40% of respondents said former President Barack Obama would be seen as one of the best or above average, compared to 31% who said below average or one of the worst.

Digging into the numbers, Harris has work to do among independents, suburban voters and white voters

  • Harris only pulls in 32% of independents in a match-up against Trump, while Biden got 46% in Marist’s last survey. She only gets 40% of white voters, compared to Biden’s 47%; and only 42% of small city/suburban women, compared to 58% for Biden. 

  • Trump now leads with suburban voters, 50%-42%, when Biden had led previously, 56%-42%.

  • But Harris has an opportunity to convince these voters, as 1-in-5 independents (21%) are now undecided, compared to just 4% previously; 11% of small city/suburban women are also undecided, compared to 2% in the last poll; as are of suburban voters, compared to 2% previously; and 7% of white voters, only 2% of whom said so earlier this month.

Trump, though, sees declines with younger voters, nonwhites and those without degrees

  • Trump drops by 9 points with those under 35 and voters without college degrees. He also falls 8 points with nonwhite voters and parents with children under 18.
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Transcript

ARI SHAPIRO, HOST:

The 2024 presidential campaign has hit a reset. More voters are now saying they are undecided with Kamala Harris as the potential Democratic nominee. That's according to a new NPR/PBS News/Marist poll out today. NPR senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro has been looking into the numbers. Hey, Domenico.

DOMENICO MONTANARO, BYLINE: Hey, Ari.

SHAPIRO: Who are those undecided voters? What are you seeing?

MONTANARO: Well, first, you know, Harris and former President Trump are tied in a hypothetical matchup. Trump's at 46, Harris at 45. But that's well within the margin of error. When you add third-party choices to the mix, they're in a dead heat, 42-42. But I have to say that's probably the default setting on modern American presidential politics. You know, anyone with a D or R next to their name is going to get 45% most likely.

So what's happening here - a big reason, like you said - is a lot of people have taken a step back and are saying that they're undecided now. For example, 21% of independents are saying that - huge number up from just 4% a couple weeks ago, when it was Trump against Biden. Independent women in particular are at 28% undecided now, up from just 6%. Really, these next two to three weeks are going to be crucial for Harris. People are going to be watching closely, and she has an opportunity to really reintroduce herself before views start to really solidify.

SHAPIRO: That's shocking that more than 1 in 4 independent women self-describe as undecided right now. All election, we've been talking about a lack of motivation, especially on the Democratic side. Has that changed now that Harris is in the picture?

MONTANARO: We're definitely seeing that. The survey found 9 in 10 Democrats agreed with Biden's decision to step aside. Three-quarters say that they want Harris to be the nominee. Democrats say that they're feeling better about their chances now. Black voters in particular say that they're more fired up to vote. Fifty percent of Black voters say that they're more likely to vote now - among the highest of any groups we tested. And I don't think we can really underestimate how important it is for the Democratic Party to have Black voters fully on board for a Democratic presidential candidate.

Harris is also doing better with younger voters than Biden as well. For example, when we asked a couple weeks ago about Biden and Trump and gave people the choice of third-party candidates, young voters in particular moved away from Biden in big numbers. Harris, on the other hand, right now, according to this poll, is mostly holding on to them.

SHAPIRO: So if Harris is improving in all those groups and all those ways, why is she still tied with Trump in this poll?

MONTANARO: Well, this is sort of the whack-a-mole of politics, right? I mean, you know, Harris does better with younger voters and Black voters. She's down, though, from where Biden was with independents, suburban voters and white voters overall. Her favorability rating is only 40%.

And she's got some challenges and a lot to prove. You know, she's been roundly criticized for not running a very good presidential campaign five years ago. She had some messaging missteps early on in the Biden presidency. But so far, she's off to a good first couple of days of campaigning with her speech yesterday and stop today in Wisconsin. She showed she can prosecute the case against Trump and laid out a vision for the future for the country, certainly more coherently than Biden has been able to of late, and that's been a breath of fresh air for a lot of Democrats.

SHAPIRO: What about the vice-presidential pick? Is J.D. Vance helping Trump at all?

MONTANARO: Well, you know, no one really votes for the VP pick, and that's especially true when the person at the top of the ticket is Donald Trump. Vance has had a bit of a rocky start, I have to say. And this is a crucial time for him. Forty-one percent in our polls said that they don't have an opinion about him yet. Only 28% have a favorable opinion of him.

As for Harris' potential VP, we asked Democratic voters about some of the names that have been floating around, and there was no consensus about who she should pick. That's because, like Vance, they're largely unknown nationally. Now, one thing we do know is that a number of the people who have been talked about to be Harris' VP have a few specific things in common. They're mostly white men, moderate and from swing states.

SHAPIRO: NPR's Domenico Montanaro. Thank you.

MONTANARO: You're welcome. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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