Updated February 15, 2024 at 3:35 PM ET

Russia is developing a weapon that has the potential to threaten satellites but has not yet deployed it, the White House said Thursday, explaining that the development was troubling, but that there was no immediate safety risk.

"We are not talking about a weapon that could be used to attack human beings or cause physical destruction here on Earth," said John Kirby, a spokesperson for the White House National Security Council.

But such a weapon could interfere with systems used for communication, transportation, meteorology and financial transactions — and threaten astronauts in low orbit, he said.

"While I am limited by how much I can share about the specific nature of the threat, I can confirm that it is related to an anti-satellite capability that Russia is developing," Kirby said.

The details of the new weapon are classified

The White House was briefing a small group of lawmakers about the development on Thursday. The information came to public attention a day earlier, when House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Turner, R-Ohio, publicly called on President Biden to declassify information "concerning a national security threat."

An official told NPR on Wednesday that the threat concerned a space-based nuclear capability that could allow Russia to target satellites. It was unclear whether that was a nuclear-powered device or a nuclear weapon.

Kirby declined to give any details or description of the capability, saying it was classified.

What the rules are around weapons in space

The U.S., Russia and China already have the capability to attack satellites, but the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 explicitly bans the use of nuclear weapons in space.

The treaty instructs nations "not to place in orbit around the Earth any objects carrying nuclear weapons or any other kinds of weapons of mass destruction, install such weapons on celestial bodies, or station such weapons in outer space in any other manner."

Experts questioned whether a nuclear weapon would be useful against a satellite. In the vacuum of space, a nuclear explosion wouldn't create a destructive shock wave like it does here on Earth, says Brian Weeden, chief program officer with the Secure World Foundation and an expert on space weaponry.

The Russian Embassy did not return NPR's request for comment.

The Kremlin said the White House was making "another ploy" to try to get Congress to pass a bill with funding for Ukraine. But Kirby rejected that assertion in a one-word answer. "Bollocks," he said.

It could be a nuclear weapon or a reactor

In 2021, Russia fired a missile into space that destroyed a decommissioned Soviet-era satellite. That test proved its ability to knock out satellites at will.

But Russia has also been facing new threats from satellites in its war in Ukraine. Ukrainian forces have been using SpaceX's Starlink constellation on the front line for communications and targeting. Starlink uses thousands of satellites, making it virtually impossible to take out with direct-ascent weaponry.

Nuclear weapons might offer an advantage. In 1962, before the Outer Space Treaty went into force, the U.S. detonated a 1.4 megaton nuclear weapon high above the Pacific Ocean in a test known as "Starfish Prime."

The weapon created an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that disrupted electronics and communications and was powerful enough to knock out streetlights in Hawaii, some 900 miles away. The test also created an artificial radiation field that damaged numerous satellites in low Earth orbit in the following days and weeks.

Such a weapon could potentially damage a satellite constellation like Starlink, says James Acton, co-director of the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

"There is a pretty significant threat from high-altitude nuclear explosions to satellites," he says. "Nuclear weapons would be a much more efficient way of trying to destroy them."

On the other hand, he says, such an indiscriminate weapon would likely destroy many satellites, not just the intended target.

"That's going to have a ton of other repercussions on all the Russian satellites and all of China's satellites," Weeden says. "And I'm pretty sure the Chinese are not going to be happy about that."

Weeden believes it might be more likely that Russia is developing a space-based nuclear reactor, which could in theory be used to power electronic warfare equipment in orbit.

Russia has been working to develop high-powered space-based nuclear reactors in recent years, with speculation that it might be used for space-based electronic warfare. The idea would be that the reactor would be used to power some sort of jamming device or other weapon that could disable satellites, Weeden says.

The U.S. military has been investing in space-based nuclear power as well in recent years. The Air Force doled out several tens of millions of dollars last year as part of its Joint Emergent Technology Supplying On-Orbit Nuclear power (JETSON) High Power program. Some of that money is going toward developing nuclear power sources for future trips to the moon and Mars, but other parts appear to be developing high-power applications for orbit. And the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has also partnered with NASA to develop a nuclear-powered rocket for deep space exploration.

Top lawmakers are getting a briefing

Biden's national security adviser Jake Sullivan was giving a classified briefing to a small group of lawmakers in the House of Representatives on the issue on Thursday.

House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Turner urged Biden to declassify the information to help Congress, the administration and U.S. allies "openly discuss the actions necessary to respond to this threat."

In response, Senate Intelligence Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., and ranking member Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said their committee "has the intelligence in question, and has been rigorously tracking this issue from the start."

Their statement added: "We continue to take this matter seriously and are discussing an appropriate response with the administration. In the meantime, we must be cautious about potentially disclosing sources and methods that may be key to preserving a range of options for U.S. action."

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Transcript

A MARTÍNEZ, HOST:

Russia is developing a space-based nuclear capability that could be used to target satellites. That's according to a source familiar with the matter.

MICHEL MARTIN, HOST:

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan is on Capitol Hill today to brief top lawmakers, although Sullivan would not confirm the topic of that meeting.

MARTÍNEZ: Now, there aren't a lot of details about what exactly Russia is up to. But when the words nukes and space and satellites come up, we turn to our science and security correspondent, Geoff Brumfiel. He's here with us this morning. Geoff, new kinds of nuclear weapons in space. That sounds bad. How bad is it?

GEOFF BRUMFIEL, BYLINE: (Laughter) Don't panic, A.

MARTÍNEZ: All right.

BRUMFIEL: Russia already has more than 1,000 nuclear weapons here on Earth pointed at us. They could reduce the U.S. to an ash heap in a matter of minutes - that's been the case for decades - and we could do the same to them. But nonetheless, you know, nuclear weapons in space to target satellites would also be pretty bad. And that's why they're actually banned under an international treaty.

MARTÍNEZ: All right, so what rule would Russia be breaking if they put a nuke around the Earth?

BRUMFIEL: Well, the big one is the Outer Space Treaty. It says that states shall not, quote, "place in orbit around Earth any objects carrying nuclear weapons or any other kinds of weapons of mass destruction." So, I mean, you couldn't be more clear about that. This is a treaty that all the major nuclear powers have signed - China, even India and Pakistan. And the U.S. has accused Russia of violating other nuclear treaties recently, but this would go really far. This would run a lot of risks. So, you know, a nuclear weapon, a thermonuclear bomb in orbit, would be a big deal.

MARTÍNEZ: But, OK, so what else then could this nuclear anti-satellite weapon be?

BRUMFIEL: Yeah, it's notable the U.S. called it a nuclear, quote, "capability," not a nuclear bomb. And, you know, satellites have become really important in warfare. Ukraine, for example, has been using Starlink to help it fight Russia. Russia, the U.S. and China have all been experimenting with ways to shoot down satellites in recent years, mainly with missiles from the Earth. And one of the options here might be not a nuclear weapon but a nuclear power reactor. A reactor would generate electricity, and that electricity could be used for some sort of elaborate satellite-jamming or satellite-zapping device. It'd have to be a real James Bond-type deal. The Russians have been looking at nuclear reactors for space recently, and actually, so have the Americans. The Air Force has a program called the Joint Emergent Technology Supplying On-Orbit Nuclear Power. The short one for this is JETSON. That's the acronym.

MARTÍNEZ: OK.

BRUMFIEL: Those of us of a certain age will know what that means.

MARTÍNEZ: Yeah.

BRUMFIEL: But basically, there's no talk of using the U.S. reactors for anti-satellite weaponry. A lot of that is for space exploration, at least that's what the public says. Anyway, a nuclear reactor in space is a big deal, but it's also not an immediate threat because there's probably still a lot of R&D to be done.

MARTÍNEZ: "The Jetsons" were a cartoon way back in the day, in case anyone's wondering. So what more do we expect to learn about this?

BRUMFIEL: Right. So Jake Sullivan is planning to brief the House leaders today, including the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Republican Mike Turner. Yesterday, Turner called for President Biden to declassify information about a national security threat, assuming that's the nuclear threat. But it remains to be seen if Biden will do it.

MARTÍNEZ: All right, NPR's science and security correspondent Geoff Brumfiel. Thanks a lot.

BRUMFIEL: Thank you. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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