When a Trump rally t-shirt is more than just a shirt
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A vendor sells 2024 Donald Trump campaign souvenirs at the Turning Point Action USA conference in West Palm Beach, Florida, on July 15, 2023.Giorgio Viera / AFP via Getty Images -
"The Hillary Nutcracker & Corkscrew Bill", a boxed set of a nutcracker and bottle corkscrew were available for sale during the 2009 holiday season.Paul J. Richards / AFP via Getty Images -
A vendor sells t-shirts at a May 1, 2024, Trump rally in Freeland, Michigan.Danielle Kurtzleben/NPR
Trump rallies involve a lot of merch – vendors will sometimes set up overnight before a rally, preparing for the huge crowds. There are hats, socks, flags, buttons and, especially, t-shirts.
I go to a lot of these rallies. In the middle of it all, I’ve gotten a little obsessed with this one particular shirt.
Miranda Barbee bought one in the hours before a Trump rally on the beach in Wildwood, New Jersey, and held it up, reading aloud.
“I just bought this shirt for $20. It says ‘Biden sucks, Kamala –’ what does that even — ‘swallows’? I didn't even see the front! That is so funny.” She flipped it around. “And the back says, ‘F**k Joe and the Hoe.’”
She and the friend she came with laughed.
“I honestly didn't know the front said that,” Barbee added. “But I think that's hilarious.”
These shirts have been sold prominently at recent rallies – vendors who specialize in these particular shirts often stand right outside the entrances and exits, catching the eyes of the streams of Trump fans.
They’re not official campaign apparel. When asked for comment, a campaign spokesperson didn’t address the shirts directly, instead pointing to a Biden official campaign shirt (slogan: “Free on Wednesdays”) that pokes fun at Donald Trump’s legal troubles.
Still, I wanted to know: why? Why do these shirts exist, and who’s buying them? Sooner or later, I had spent so much time thinking about it, I wanted to know if there was anything to be learned here.
The infamous Hillary Clinton nutcracker
Sexism isn’t exactly new in politics.
Consider America’s decades of Hillary-Clinton hatred. One t-shirt slogan around the time of her 2008 presidential campaign read “I wish Hillary had married O.J.,” referring to O.J. Simpson who famously faced trial for his wife's murder. He was acquitted.
And then there was the Hillary Clinton nutcracker…described gleefully by MSNBC’s Willie Geist in 2007 as “a Hillary doll with serrated stainless steel thighs that, well, crack nuts.” To this, Tucker Carlson — then also of MSNBC — responded, "When she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs" and declared that he would be buying one.
Over the years, Michelle Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Sarah Palin would also be the targets of demeaning, often obscene merchandise.
But still, the open lewdness of the Trump t-shirts. That’s new, right? I asked Tim Miller, a Republican strategist who worked for Jon Huntsman and Jeb Bush’s presidential campaigns.
“It's not like you couldn't find a guy standing outside the RNC in 2012 selling some misogynistic Hillary stuff. It was there, but just the intensity of it,” he said, “just how crass it is, it's definitely a category difference.”
That crassness has been around from the beginning at Trump rallies. As my colleague Don Gonyea reported in 2016, vendors then were selling shirts reading, “Hillary sucks, but not the way Monica does.”
The difference between parties
“What's different about Donald Trump is that his campaign is not particularly worried about this type of misogyny being attached to his campaign, because at least to date, it hasn't hurt him that much,” explained Kelly Dittmar, director of research for the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University.
One example: Even after a jury found him civilly liable for sexual abuse last year, polls didn’t budge.
Part of what’s going on is partisan, Dittmar adds — a reflection of an existing gender gap.
“I think there's more kind of internal policing among Democrats about the fact that ‘this is contrary to our brand and it hurts us, by the way, with the constituency that is our most reliable one, which is women.’”
Furthermore, she says, this kind of language is often particularly directed at women of color, like Kamala Harris. The word “ho'” on the shirt undeniably makes this about race as well as sex.
Meanwhile, Dittmar says, the Republican base is majority-men.
“And of course,” she said, “of the women who do support [Republicans], they are more likely to say that this is just, you know, a joke.”
That was true of voter Christena Kincaid, who talked to me just after she had bought one of these shirts at a rally in Freeland, Michigan.
“It's just a slang. That's all it is,” she said. “It's a goofy – it is a little over the top. I get it. But they're just words.”
That idea, that they’re just words, fits with Trump’s brand as an anti-PC crusader who “tells it like it is,” which has involved loudly insulting women, from Clinton to Megyn Kelly to Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar.
But also, the idea that words don’t matter that much – that echoes the response to the infamous Access Hollywood tape, which Trump’s defenders shrugged off as “locker room talk.”
Trickle-down incivility
Rina Shah is a political strategist and a former Republican congressional aide, and a Republican who opposes Trump. She told me she thinks the shirts very much matter.
“If we're allowing our kids to see this visually, even if it's contained at a rally, the person who wears that shirt at that rally isn't just going to wear that one day,” she said. “This flavor of incivility is permeating our nation's social fabric.”
I did ask Bob Berger, who I met at that Freeland, Mich., rally, about wearing the shirt outside of a rally.
“Are you worried about offending anyone when you wear it?” I asked.
“No.”
"Do you think you'll be careful where you wear it? Like around, I don't know, grandkids?" I continued.
"Oh, maybe around the grandkids. I probably would be," he replied.
What Rina Shah said about Trump’s incivility trickling down to his supporters seems true, whether it’s via clothing or simply their willingness to get nasty in talking about Biden and Harris.
“As much as I hope Joe Biden gets arrested, whatever, is not in office anymore. I'm like, we're still stuck with the bitch. I don’t want her either,” said Barbee, the voter I met at that New Jersey rally, referring to Harris.
I asked her: Does that language feel demeaning to you as a young woman – using words like bitch?
“I mean, she is a bitch,” she responded.
On top of that, you can also see all this — the t-shirt slogans, the cuss words, Trump’s vulgarity — as a marker of a gap in American politics: A yawning partisan gap in attitudes about gender.
“Those differences in gender beliefs are going to make it more permissible or not to put forth these types of messages without some sort of a backlash or pushing down,” Dittmar of Rutgers University said.
Studies have found that Trump voters — including women — in 2016 were particularly likely to have beliefs that political scientists term “hostile sexism.” Furthermore, some found that these beliefs were prominent in a way they weren’t in 2012. Those “hostile sexist” beliefs include, for example, the idea that women are too easily offended.
Barbee, at that New Jersey rally, the voter who talked to me the longest about her shirt, echoed some of those beliefs.
“I feel like feminism is becoming like a huge thing these days, but I also feel like it's – people are overly sensitive, like they're reacting to things they shouldn't be reacting to. “
It’s an attitude that’s been around for a long time. But her new t-shirt? That represented something new.
Transcript
DANIELLE KURTZLEBEN, HOST:
We're going to start this segment with a warning that there's some vulgar language coming. The language in question is on a T-shirt. I go to a lot of Trump rallies. I interview a lot of voters, and I've seen so much Trump merch. And in the middle of it all, I've gotten a little obsessed with this one particular shirt. Again, a language warning here because this shirt is a doozy. I'll let Miranda Barbee read it. I met her before a rally in Wildwood, N.J. You'll hear her friend laughing in the background.
MIRANDA BARBEE: I just bought this shirt for $20. It says, Biden sucks. Kamala - what does that even? - swallows. Oh, wait, that's - I didn't even see the front. That is so funny. And the back says, [expletive] Joe and the hoe.
KURTZLEBEN: OK, so you didn't know it said that.
BARBEE: No, I honestly didn't know the front said that, but I think that's hilarious.
KURTZLEBEN: These shirts have been sold prominently at recent rallies, and they're not official campaign apparel. A campaign spokesperson didn't address the shirts directly when asked for comment. But anyway, I wanted to know why. Why did these shirts exist, and who's buying them? Sooner or later I had spent so much time thinking about it, I wanted to know if there was anything to be learned here. At first, I thought, maybe not. After all, sexism isn't new in politics. Consider America's decades of Hillary Clinton hatred. One T-shirt slogan around the time of her 2008 presidential campaign read I wish Hillary had married OJ. And then there were Hillary Clinton nutcrackers. Here's MSNBC's Willie Geist in 2007.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
WILLIE GEIST: They're going like hotcakes in Rochester, Minn., where the idea for the nutcracker was hatched. It's a Hillary doll with serrated stainless steel thighs to, well, crack nuts.
KURTZLEBEN: Over the years, Michelle Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Sarah Palin would also be the targets of demeaning, often obscene merch. But still, the open lewdness of the Trump T-shirts - that's new, right? I asked Tim Miller, a Republican strategist who worked for Jon Huntsman and Jeb Bush's presidential campaigns. And he said yeah.
TIM MILLER: It's not like you couldn't have found a guy standing outside the RNC in 2012 or, you know, selling some misogynistic Hillary stuff. Like, it was there, but just the intensity of it and, like you're saying, just how crass it is - it's definitely a category difference.
KURTZLEBEN: That crassness has been around from the beginning of Trump rallies. Here's a vendor my colleague Don Gonyea captured in 2016, selling shirts referencing Hillary Clinton, Monica Lewinsky and oral sex, in a way similar to the Biden-Harris T-shirt.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED NPR BROADCAST)
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Hillary [expletive] but not the way Monica does. Hillary [expletive] but not the way Monica does.
KURTZLEBEN: Rutgers University's Kelly Dittmar, director of research at the Center for American Women and Politics, had some perspective here.
KELLY DITTMAR: What's different about Donald Trump is that his campaign is not particularly worried about this type of misogyny being attached to his campaign because, at least to date, it hasn't hurt him that much.
KURTZLEBEN: True. One example - even after a jury found him liable for sexual abuse last year, polls didn't budge. Part of what's going on is partisan, Dittmar adds, a reflection of an existing gender gap.
DITTMAR: I think there's more kind of internal policing among Democrats about the fact that this is contrary to our brand and it hurts us, by the way, with the constituency that is our most reliable one, which is women.
KURTZLEBEN: Furthermore, she says, this kind of language is often particularly directed at women of color, like Kamala Harris. The word hoe on the shirt undeniably makes this about race and sex. Meanwhile, Dittmar says, the Republican base is majority men.
DITTMAR: And, of course, of the women who do support them, they are more likely to say that this is just, you know, a joke.
KURTZLEBEN: Voter Christena Kincaid talked to me just after she had bought one of these shirts at a rally in Freeland, Mich.
CHRISTENA KINCAID: Yeah, it's just a slang. It's just - that's all it is. It's a goofy - it's like - it's a little over the top. I get it. But they're just words.
KURTZLEBEN: That idea that they're just words fits with Trump's brand as anti-PC crusader who tells it like it is, which has involved loudly insulting women from Clinton to Megyn Kelly to Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. But also, the idea that words don't matter that much - that echoes the response to the infamous "Access Hollywood" tape, which Trump's defenders shrugged off as locker-room talk.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
DONALD TRUMP: And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
BILLY BUSH: Whatever you want.
TRUMP: Grab them by the [expletive] - I can do anything.
KURTZLEBEN: Rina Shah is a political strategist and a former Republican congressional aide and a Republican who opposes Trump. She told me she thinks the shirts very much matter.
RINA SHAH: If we're allowing our kids to see this visually, even if it's contained at a rally, that person who wears that shirt at that rally isn't just going to wear it that one day. This flavor of incivility is permeating our nation's social fabric.
KURTZLEBEN: I did ask Bob Berger, who I met at that Michigan rally, about wearing the shirt outside of a rally.
Are you worried about offending anyone when you wear it?
BOB BERGER: No.
KURTZLEBEN: Is there anywhere he would be careful about wearing it, like around his family, his grandkids?
BERGER: Maybe around the grandkids, I probably would be.
KURTZLEBEN: And what Rina Shah said about Trump's incivility trickling down to his supporters, that does seem true, whether it's via clothing or simply their willingness to get nasty in talking about Biden and Harris. Here's Miranda Barbee again at that New Jersey rally.
BARBEE: As much as I've said, I hope Joe Biden gets arrested, whatever, is not in office anymore, I'm like, we're still stuck with the b****. Like, I don't want her either.
KURTZLEBEN: You're a young woman. Does that language feel demeaning to you like hoe or swallows or calling her a b****?
BARBEE: I mean, she is a b****.
KURTZLEBEN: But on top of that, you can see all of this - the T-shirt slogans, the cuss words, Trump's vulgarity - as a marker of a gap in American politics - not a gender gap, but a yawning partisan gap in attitudes about gender. Here's Kelly Dittmar again at Rutgers.
DITTMAR: And those differences in gender beliefs are going to make it more permissible or not to put forth these types of messages without some sort of a backlash or pushing down.
KURTZLEBEN: This gap in gender attitudes might be the most interesting thing these shirts underline. Studies have found that Trump voters, including women, in 2016, were particularly likely to have beliefs that political scientists term hostile sexism and that those beliefs were prominent in a way that they weren't in 2012. Those hostile sexist beliefs include, for example, the idea that women are too easily offended. Barbee at that New Jersey rally is the voter who talked to me the longest about her shirt. And she also got into her broader beliefs about gender.
BARBEE: I feel like feminism is becoming, like, a huge thing these days. But I also feel like people are overly sensitive. Like, they're reacting to things they shouldn't be reacting to.
KURTZLEBEN: It's an attitude that's been around for a long time. But the T-shirt she was carrying, that represented something new.
(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC) Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.
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